Thursday, November 15, 2012

Opposition M P Denies Avoiding Military Service: Thailand

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The Nation

BANGKOK: -- Democrat Party MP Sirichok Sopha, who represents Songkhla, yesterday denied dodging the draft after a general filed a complaint to the Defence Ministry accusing Sirichok and deputy party leader Korn Chatikavanij of escaping military conscription.

"The government is adopting an evil tactic to intimidate, discredit and distract the opposition from grilling ministers in the censure debate. I noticed that they either accuse us of dodging the draft or falsifying Sor Dor 43 documents. But we are not perturbed and will continue to perform our duty and are ready to be scrutinised,'' he said.

Sirichok said the report that he dodged the draft in Songkhla was wrong because he was born in Bangkok and was required to report for conscription in Pathum Wan district. However, the Civil Service Commission had granted him a Sor Dor 43 document 20 years ago that exempted him from military duty, he said.

According to a Defence Ministry source, the ministry panel that ruled to dismiss Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva from the Army Reserve, strip him of his military rank and recall his military salary has forwarded its resolution to the Ombudsman.

The panel has also received a request from an unspecified general to check whether Korn and Sirichok had evaded the draft or held falsified documents involving conscription.

The source said Korn was domiciled with Bangkok's Infantry Battalion of the 11th Army Circle and Sirichok with Songkhla's Infantry Battalion of the 42nd Army Circle. Both left Thailand for the United Kingdom to study in high school and a university and did not return to the country to attend the draft. They sought exemptions till they were beyond the legal age for compulsory service.

The Defence Ministry's panel has contacted both military units to see whether the two Democrats had committed offences as alleged.


-- The Nation 2012-11-15


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Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.

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Democrat Party MP Sirichok Sopha, who represents Songkhla, yesterday denied dodging the draft after a general filed a complaint to the Defence Ministry accusing Sirichok and deputy party leader Korn Chatikavanij of escaping military conscription.

a request from an unspecified general


Was it General Chaisit Shinawatra???<_<

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View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

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View PostThai at Heart, on 2012-11-15 07:06:42, said:

This could be fun to watch.


Indeed, those that point fingers need to be squeaky clean themselves.

Sand-pit stuff.

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View PostThaddeus, on 2012-11-15 08:04:10, said:

View PostThai at Heart, on 2012-11-15 07:06:42, said:

This could be fun to watch.


Indeed, those that point fingers need to be squeaky clean themselves.

Sand-pit stuff.

Every one finger pointed, there's three coming back.
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View PostBuchholz, on 2012-11-15 08:02:53, said:

View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

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That's democratic then??Posted Image
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View PostGentlemanJim, on 2012-11-15 08:45:14, said:

View PostBuchholz, on 2012-11-15 08:02:53, said:

View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

.


That's democratic then??Posted Image
Yep

Use democracy to destroy democracy. What could be more democratic than that?

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View PostGentlemanJim, on 2012-11-15 08:45:14, said:

View PostBuchholz, on 2012-11-15 08:02:53, said:

View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

.


That's democratic then??Posted Image

Dear old Weng is really losing the plot n'est ce pas? Posted Image??Time to Posted Image

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View PostBuchholz, on 2012-11-15 08:02:53, said:

View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

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How does??your post relate to the??MPs avoiding military service? Don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with senior??political figures avoiding service, but very willing to use the military to carry out their dirty work?
Can you??understand now, why there was a near mutiny in the ranks at the time of the Bangkok uprising?
Those that do their service have no respect for those that obtain deferments or??avoid service altogether. It doesn't matter which party it is, Unfortunately, the Democrats seem to have many in its??leadership ranks that didn't serve their country.
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This could be a good way to thin out the political landscape and get rid of the dishonest.
Wonder what percentage of politicians avoided conscript?
As Mark always says everyone has to follow "The Rule Law".

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View Postgeriatrickid, on 2012-11-15 10:03:15, said:

View PostBuchholz, on 2012-11-15 08:02:53, said:

View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

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How does??your post relate to the??MPs avoiding military service? Don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with senior??political figures avoiding service, but very willing to use the military to carry out their dirty work?
Can you??understand now, why there was a near mutiny in the ranks at the time of the Bangkok uprising?
Those that do their service have no respect for those that obtain deferments or??avoid service altogether. It doesn't matter which party it is, Unfortunately, the Democrats seem to have many in its??leadership ranks that didn't serve their country.

If the objective was to clean up the landscape and get rid of dishonest politicians, that would be fine, but it clearly isn't.
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View Postgeriatrickid, on 2012-11-15 10:03:15, said:

Don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with senior??political figures avoiding service, but very willing to use the military to carry out their dirty work?

A senior political figure using the military to carry out their dirty work would obviously be wrong period, and the matter of their own service or lack thereof would be somewhat academic and trivial by comparison. Unless you are arguing that senior political figures who didn't avoid service be allowed use of the military for dirty work.

View Postgeriatrickid, on 2012-11-15 10:03:15, said:

Can you??understand now, why there was a near mutiny in the ranks at the time of the Bangkok uprising?

Near mutiny? Where do you get that from?

View Postgeriatrickid, on 2012-11-15 10:03:15, said:

Unfortunately, the Democrats seem to have many in its??leadership ranks that didn't serve their country.

Based on what? All we have so far is Abhisit, opposition leader, being stripped of rank by a committee, not a court of law, put together by the present government, so no agenda there whatsoever, and some as yet completely unsubstantiated finger pointing at other Dem MPs. And this is enough for you to conclude that the Democrats seem to have many in its??leadership ranks that didn't serve their country. ??? Sounds like PTP really struggled and worked hard to convince you..... not.
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View PostThaddeus, on 2012-11-15 08:04:10, said:

View PostThai at Heart, on 2012-11-15 07:06:42, said:

This could be fun to watch.


Indeed, those that point fingers need to be squeaky clean themselves.

Sand-pit stuff.


I was waiting for Korn's name to be thrown into the pit, not saying that he did or didn't serve.??I wonder where the PTP high rankers spent their military service?

It is so common for wealthy families to avoid, and of course, daddy and a few strings pulled sorts it out.??It does raise a very simple issue about doing one's duty.??You either did it or you didn't.??

Of course there are going to be loads of MP's on all sides incriminated in this if anyone bothers to dig. Maybe they can institute a latecomers boot camp for say 6 weeks to serve.??Now that would be worth watching.

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View Postgeriatrickid, on 2012-11-15 10:03:15, said:

View PostBuchholz, on 2012-11-15 08:02:53, said:

View Postzakk9, on 2012-11-15 07:34:16, said:

Thailand on the path towards becoming a one-party-state. Removing prominent members of the oposition from the political landscape is step one. I wouldn't be surprised if in ten years, Myanmar and Malaysia are the only true democratic nations in the region.


Pheu Thai MP and Red-Shirt Leader Weng Tojirakarn yesterday called on fellow red shirts to eradicate the Democrat Party

http://www.thaivisa....d/#entry5396917

.


How does??your post relate to the??MPs avoiding military service? Don't you think there is something fundamentally wrong with senior??political figures avoiding service, but very willing to use the military to carry out their dirty work?
Can you??understand now, why there was a near mutiny in the ranks at the time of the Bangkok uprising?
Those that do their service have no respect for those that obtain deferments or??avoid service altogether. It doesn't matter which party it is, Unfortunately, the Democrats seem to have many in its??leadership ranks that didn't serve their country.

Good one GK being in the army is serving your country and being a P M is not.
Did you ever stop to think that being in the army is not serving the country it is just a free room and board with some cash thrown in extra. Can't quite remember Thailand being under attack except when they decided they wanted a few worthless acres of land that had been awarded to Cambodia 50 years ago and had no impact on either country or the people living in the area until Cambodia decided it should be a world heritage site. Thailand decided it was time to cause an armed conflict with that being the reason.
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Source: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/598174-opposition-m-p-denies-avoiding-military-service-thailand/

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